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From an article at Computerworld.com.

"The '640K' quote won't go away -- but did Gates really say it?
Bill Gates denies making 1981 comment about limits of RAM needs, despite popular legend"

By Eric Lai
Computerworld | JUN 23, 2008

Here's the legend: at a computer trade show in 1981, Bill Gates supposedly uttered this statement, in defense of the just-introduced IBM PC's 640KB usable RAM limit: "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

The initial PC was based on the Intel 8088, which was a hybrid 8/16-bit processor — thus the reason for the 640KB memory limit. Though tiny by today's standards — 64-bit systems can support up to 128GB of memory — 640KB at that time was an order of magnitude larger than the 64KB limit that faced users of 8-bit computers, such as the Apple II+ and the Commodore 64 ...

Even so, Gates' alleged statement looks like one of the most dogmatic, short-sighted comments ever, a verbal blunder perhaps topped only by Digital Equipment Corp. founder Ken Olsen's 1977 quip, "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." (Olsen did actually say that, but he said later that the quote was taken out of context, and that he was referring not to PCs but to computers set up to control houses.)

Despite the enduring popularity of the legend about the 640K comment, though, it's hard to find solid proof that Gates ever said it. For example, Wikiquote, an offshoot of Wikipedia, offers no strong evidence.

A claim that a profane variation of the quote was included by author Stephen Levy in his seminal book Hackers turns out to be untrue. And in March, the Bits technology blog published by The New York Times reported that the chief editor of The Yale Book of Quotations had tried without success to verify the quote. Fred Shapiro, the editor in question, said last week that he's still convinced the comment was apocryphal, despite receiving about 100 responses to his plea for information.

Gates himself has strenuously denied making the comment. In a newspaper column that he wrote in the mid-1990s, Gates responded to a student's question about the quote: "I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time." Later in the column, he added, "I keep bumping into that silly quotation attributed to me that says 640K of memory is enough. There's never a citation; the quotation just floats like a rumor, repeated again and again."

Gates, who is retiring from his day-to-day role at Microsoft Corp. on June 30, also insisted in a 2001 interview with U.S. News & World Report that he hadn't made the comment. "Do you realize the pain the industry went through while the IBM PC was limited to 640K? The machine was going to be 512K at one point, and we kept pushing it up," he told the magazine. "I never said that statement — I said the opposite of that."

Author and magazine writer James Fallows likens the 640K comment to the infamous "Let them eat cake" quote popularly, but apparently incorrectly, attributed to the French queen Marie Antoinette. The alleged remark about the memory limit "became the [IT] industry's equivalent of 'Let them eat cake' because it seemed to combine lordly condescension with a lack of interest in operational details," Fallows wrote in a 2002 article for The New York Review of Books.

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msbonne

Those are fairly common as I understand it.

patsquire

Wanna buy a used French Army rifle? Never been fired. Only been dropped once.

msbonne

that was a true classic.

patsquire

I like the French Army Men's Chorus singing their classic "(Please) Don't Beat Me Up."

msbonne

Wasn't that ELO?

robf

Yup, and Don't Beat Me Down...

msbonne

When he wrote about The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald?

robf

The lifestyle that Gordon Lightfoot sings about, seems to be one that Clint Eastwood has lived. ♥♥♫☼

Donnajames

Aww...he's a friend of my husbands...been a long time since they have seen each other though. I do like your analogy (we won't tell hubby)!

patsquire

Easy peesey. No sweat.

BTW, Clint Eastwood’s name is an anagram for "old west action.” From 1954 to 1996 he fathered eight children by six different women, most of whom he did not marry. He has won 4 Oscars, none for acting, and been nominated for 7 other Oscars, twice for acting.

robf

Abbott and Costello appeared to get frustrated with each other. We could pull that off quite well.

robf

Well then, gotta let the old misconception (pun noticed a little too late) go. I always thought he was Elton John's son.

patsquire

OK, I checked the rumor mill and found out that that isn't true. They were good friends the whole time.

**B U T** according to the rumor mill CLINT EASTWOOD IS STAN LAUREL'S SON!
WOO-HOO! And you know it MUST be true because Clint Eastwood denies it!

patsquire

Hmmmm, yeah but don't forget Laurel and Hardy hated each other.

robf

Pat, that was so well done, maybe we should consider hitting the road with a revival of "Who's On First". I can be the straight man.
♥♥♫☼ ♫♪

patsquire

♩♬ ♪ GhostBUSTERS! ♫ ♪ ♫ of course!

Max_Tooney

Haha, I'd forgotten about the car radio option.

robf

Pat, you're not going alone, are ya? Who you gonna call?

patsquire

Then I must be in the middle, between you and these darn kids we have today. I get the audio through my car radio. ☺

Max_Tooney

(Disregard: I'm sure there's a phone app for the audio. I'm showing my old age.)

Max_Tooney

Remember to spray Lysol on those mildewed speakers.

patsquire

They're showing "Ghostbusters" this Monday at the drive-in here in Maryville, Tennessee. I'm going! Fer shur! Hot dogs and popcorn, wahoooo!

msbonne

I have been shushed all my life (whether in a library or not).

Mischka

It's only on TV and in movies that librarians shush people. That's a scurrilous stereotype. I've never met anyone as gossipy and talkative as librarians; it used to drive me crazy.

Granted, the librarian in "Ghostbusters" was pretty scary.

msbonne

:::removing hat:::

Max_Tooney

And disrespecting poor Alex is akin to disrespecting Randolph Scott (Ran Do-olph Scott)

msbonne

I find it difficult when they are on the show. Always telling Alex Trebec to Shhh, and when they talk, it is very difficult to hear them.

Mischka

::: preening ::: Your approval has granted me happiness.

Library school is as hard as law school, believe me. We not only have to read books, we have to memorize them, so as to be able to find a rule or law again. We were taught how to deflect FBI agents when they came in asking to see whether books about building bombs had been checked out. We are inculcated in the principles of the ACLU. We have to know a lot of general information, and we also have to specialize, so that if a patron's question baffles one librarian, he or she can direct them to the math or botany or art history or science fiction librarian.

And when I was in grad school in the late 80s, we also were learning about all these cool computer terms like "hot links" and what they might lead to in future.

Ever notice how many librarians appear on Jeopardy? There are good reasons for that.

Max_Tooney

There was that banana peel incident when I was a child... That being said, I do approve of life, libraries and the pursuit of happiness.

Mischka

Yet, I thank you, Hoff, if you are protecting my honor. If so, please remember my honor when we're in that elevator. :-D

Mischka

Perhaps Max is of Greek ancestry? The ancient Romans kept Greek slaves, who could read and write different languages, to be their secretaries and book-room sorters.

msbonne

MAX, do you feel that librarians are property, to be given, traded, sold? I am ashamed for your family Max. I thought they raised you better than that. perhaps while being raised one time, you slipped and landed on your head?

Mischka

Yay! Pat, that was priceless. Thank you, Maxissimo!

Max_Tooney

"Give me librarians, or give me death!"

patsquire

Hurrah indeed!

Max_Tooney

Fortunately, librarians (and I quote) "maximize political freedom and autonomy"...hip, hip hurrah!

patsquire

Speaking of librarians, here are two things:

JIGIDI PUZZLE -

https://www.jigidi.com/jigsaw-puzzle/XP63VVPV/A-little-satire

COMMENT BY A UNITED STATES SENATOR:

A few years ago a newspaper or magazine was doing an article about lobbyists and political lobbying in Washington. A prominent senator told them (paraphrasing), "There are only two lobbies in Washington who never lie to me. The American Library Association and the NRA."

Max_Tooney

Thanks! :-)

Mischka

Max, you are free to be political on my pages. :-)

Max_Tooney

I wish the Librarians would nominate a candidate for the upcoming election...Oops, sorry--getting political again.

Mischka

Retired. :-D And librarians are far less stern than you might think. Libraries are by nature filled with sound baffles, and the acoustics are lousy, so we don't care if people are talking. In fact, users are far likelier to police each other.

msbonne

A Librarian!!!

Best behavior boys and girls. :::glancing furtively at the ruler in Mischka's hand:::

Can I get the door for you?

Mischka

Nope, Pat. I'm a librarian, even if retired, and think all the time about making information accessible.

I might also be a truefan to some here. :)

patsquire

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You're a nut! ❤

Mischka

I am grinning my head off at you bunch of cynics.

I'm also going to retitle this puzzle, in case we ever want to return to it in future. You can Google "jigidi" and words from a title and go straight to the puzzle. I don't know whether we can also include words from comments, never tried that.

patsquire

Oh yes, I played along. I yelped and yahooed and yelled out "I won, I won!" to the crowd strolling by.

Carnies never lose. I have a friend who travels to small carnival operations that do small town weekend stops. He's an independent with his own booth which he sets up and tears down himself, and he pays the carnival operators a flat fee for his midway space. His players pay $1 and almost never lose. They walk away winners with 10¢ stuffed toys, give them to their girl friends or grandchildren, he makes money and everybody's happy. And he's home all week.

Also, while he's welcome to sleep in "the trailer" (there are more than one) he makes plenty so he can stay in a motel. He wouldn't dream of giving it up. He has fun and makes cash profits as many weekends as he wants.

robf

Carnies need to act upset, to make the other marks think it's really that easy. Pat did him a favour & could've brought in over a dozen more of them.

Donnajames

Yea!!!!! You showed him!!!!

patsquire

Yeah, he wasn't chuckling any more. He was giving me a prize that I paid $1 for, that probably was made in Guatemala or the Philippines and cost him about 5¢ in bulk quantities, but he wasn't happy anyway. He was thinking I was going to stand there and keep trying at $1 a pop, not win on the first throw! ☺ ☺ ☺

Donnajames

That was quite the wind up. His arm was just twirling around and around before he threw.....and WHAM!!!! The carny's mouth just dropped open in astonishment!!!!

Mischka

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

VERY good, Pat.

patsquire

I went to the Texas State Fair in the mid-1990s. It is a glorious Texas-size event, that's for sure. There was an arcade game where there were row after row of old brown beer bottles set in holes in the wood so they were spaced apart, but just an inch. You threw a baseball at them and if you broke two bottles you won a prize. I hadn't thrown a baseball in decades, of course. There was one bottle that had part of a white label still on it. I asked the carny if he'd please turn that bottle so the label was straight to the front. He chuckled (like it would do me any good) and did it. Then I wound up and threw just as hard as I possibly could straight at that white label. I knew I'd never hit it. I missed. Just enough to pass between two bottles and break them both. WINNER! For my prize I selected an authentic powder horn made from a real bull's horn. I still have it hanging on my wall. I owned The Powder Horn Corporation at the time. ☺ ☺ ☺

Max_Tooney

Ah, I can't believe we let Germany attack Pearl Harbor!

msbonne

I have heard of it. I will go to Blockbuster later and see if they have it.

I just received a documentary from someone. I assume a Jigidier, as they know my penchant for exact representation of history.

It was directed by Steven Spielberg. Had a stunning cast
Cast
Dan Aykroyd
Ned Beatty
John Belushi
Lorraine Gary
Murray Hamilton
Christopher Lee
Nancy Allen
Robert Stack
Tim Matheson
Warren Oates
Treat Williams
John Candy
Frank McRae
Slim Pickens
John Landis
Mickey Rourke
Penny Marshall

and more.

Clearly an accurate depiction of Southern California after Pearl Harbor.

It is titled 1941, and is historically very accurate.

Max_Tooney

I saw the movie version of that, starring George Clooney. Bill was the greatest of all time (GOAT)--and the movie was 'The Men Who Stare at GOATs.'

msbonne

His arm was stuck in that position for several years. He finally saved enough money to have somebody move it for him.

Max_Tooney

Bill Gates should consider himself lucky that he isn't throwing a baseball in that photo. ('Tommy John' surgery candidate if I ever saw one!)

Mischka

DJ, let me know when you want to come live in South Miami. :-)

All of you deserve everything good.

Donnajames

I'm definitely lacking in the funds department, but I must say I have had a pretty good life as it turned out. After all...I'm living in the middle of a desert!!!! LOL

patsquire

So do I. So do I. Of course, I can't say that about everybody on Jigidi!

msbonne

I deserve everything good.


Hoff the humble sloth.

patsquire

Deke Thornton: What I like and what I need are two different things.

msbonne

But you need 640K, even Bill says that.

patsquire

For 10% of the gross I'll negotiate a settlement for you. I'm looking for a final result of about half a million.

msbonne

Bill still owes me 640K.

patsquire

Yes it is, but he was living his life and not filled with regrets. Good guy.

Mischka

That's a marty big could've!

patsquire

DJ, missed opportunities??? I had a friend named Carrol Tallent who was personally asked by Sam Walton to be one of his first dozen or so key men for a new retail company he was setting up. Walton said he was thinking of calling it Wal-Mart. My friend would have been vice president of purchasing, but he declined because Sam couldn't pay very much at the beginning, and my friend had a family and kids, etc. Also, he wasn't convinced that Sam's offer of stock in lieu of salary would ever be worth anything!!!!! (All those early people became millionaires and even billionaires.)

Mischka

I remember memory cards! The guy who used to serve my old computer told me, when it was slowing down, that I needed more memory. He unscrewed the panel, attached a memory device a little bigger than a brick, and said, "You won't be able to fit the panel back on now. Maybe just throw a towel over it when you leave the room." I wasn't rigorous about it, and soon it was filthy with dust and nicotine. SUCH a relief to buy a new CPU.

Rob, thanks for the clarification! Never stopped, no -- now we've expanded into clouds. So cool.

DJ, my life has been mostly "should've"s! :)

jimez

The Commodore VIC-20 origionally came with 3.5 K. You could later expand it ,with memory cards, up to 39 K. Those were the days. :)

Donnajames

@robf - could've, would've, should've! Oh, well, story of my life!!!

robf

@Donnajames, it could've been you instead of Elly May, on the Beverly Hillbillies!

robf

I remember that; they actually did put screen RAM starting at 640k in the first versions of PC-DOS and MS-DOS. So your program had to fit between the operating system starting from byte 0, and the 640k "limit". If it was too big you had to split it up into smaller chunks, and each of them had to a) run on its own, and b) know how to bring in the next chunk when needed.
If you messed up, you'd see your data and your variables making strange little dot patterns on the screen!

So though Gates might have never said those words, his team did act on the idea. It was OK for a few years until 32 bit processors became affordable; then we could start to dream of much, much more RAM.

We've never stopped.

Donnajames

Well, you can tell I was such a success! I barely have a dollar-three-eighty!!! :-((

Mischka

Yeah, it wouldn't be an urban legend then. I can barely get along on $640K! Lol.

DJ, had no idea you were such a bleeding-edge leader. :D

mariolyn

Same as Donna & Max. I thought it was money. Thanks for the info article since I was not aware of it.

Donnajames

I was living in Silicon Valley at the beginning of the PC when it first started. What an era! Things were happening so fast. I worked for several computer giants at start-up. Sure wish I had stayed with one of them. Lol! Even worked with a company that was working to have computers 'talk to each other' as they called it back then. At first I thought that would never happen! Fooled me...I think they call it the internet now!!!! Once again...I left the company! Just think.....I might have been a bazillionaire now!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mischka

Lol! I had computer nerd friends in the 80s and remember this quote being bruited around.

I also remember when everyone thought that the 2K exploding computers hullabaloo was a fizzle. It fizzled precisely because teams of techs worked hard and fast to prevent it.

Donnajames

I also read the title and thought he was referring to $$$. dj :-))

Max_Tooney

I thought he was referring to his net worth in 1981 dollars.