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Yes East, you are right. I had wandered off down some line of thought based on my own addled sense of values. Thanks for the lesson in 21st century railway economics. I have come to the realisation that so much of my thinking is distorted by a failure to forget. As a lad I did a paper round, seven mornings a week for 10 bob a week (50p). This simple figure clogs up all my current reasoning. After all, lugging a bag loaded with newspapers round for a month and trading the financial results for a cup of tea seems hellish bad business sense.

Living in the past may be a symptom of something 'orrible but it is very comfortable.


Paddy, getting tangled in the rails can be very dangerous.


ferret, it's very difficult to compare steam and diesel locomotives because they are totally different animals. Preparation of a steam locomotive at the beginning of a duty and then disposal at the end meant it was unavailable for work for long periods. Not so with a diesel electric.

Fuel consumption for modern diesels is not calculated in mpg, but if it was it would be gpm. Instead the calculation is basically how much fuel is required to move x amount of tons y amount of miles.

As for mileage covered in a lifetime, I opened a book at random and found D1013 Western Ranger which was a diesel hydraulic. It was built in 1962 and withdrawn in 1977 with a recorded mileage of 1,320,000. That computes to around 88,000 miles for each of it's 15 years service.

It's frightening East, the economics of gigantic organisations like the old railway compan.ies are hard to get the head round. Their overheads must have been colossal. Yet it all seemed to come together. Do the modern diesels cover the same sort of working mileage do you know? Their running costs must be significantly more expensive.


Yes ferret. She was built at Swindon in 1935 at a cost of £2255 and by May 1965 when withdrawn had covered 823,012 miles. I think they got their monies worth.

Nice little loco East.

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