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Ah, Schutkleur, intriguing that Van Camp was Van Kampen. I wonder if any in that family knew that. My husband will have to share this information with his cousins. I will be watching the skyline now in some of your puzzles. : )

One thing that impressed my daughter was the closeness of fields to the town where Ellen lives. My husband grew up on a farm, wanted to have dairy cows, and introduced our daughter to cows at the University, one time -- held her so she could pet them. Because of that, our daughter has always liked cows. We were on the farm when our daughter was young, but moved from there when she was two. He worked with farmers in a job for over 37 years, in soil conservation.


VanCamp also sounds dutch. It originally would have been Van Kampen. Kampen is a very old Hansetown.
Simpelveld is in Limburg, in the most hilly part of our country. It`s beautiful there. My parents always had their vacation near Simpelveld in Mechelen. The rest of my country is practically flat.
Amsterdam is our capital. Rotterdam I can see from my side-window. I live a little to the east of Rotterdam. In some of my puzzles (often sky-pizzles) you can see a bit of the skyline of Rotterdam. I don`t know if it still is, but Rotterdam has been the biggest port of the world for very, very long.


Exactly right, on Vandelftzjil! She told Dan about the town. And I think perhaps Vander Meulen was 3 words, when they first moved to town, he is somewhat younger than I am, but it has been over 25 years at least when they came here. Also, I think the name was/is split now, like I have it above, but the listing in the phone book had it slid together.

I talked to my daughter this evening and she said the town where her friend lives in Simpelveld. She also said that they went to Amsterdam and Rotterdam, but more of her time would have been in Simpelveld.

My husband and I were talking about names that may have originated from the Netherlands, and we got wide-eyed and said VanCamp! His mother's sister was married to a VanCamp, and he had 8 or 10 VanCamp cousins.


It`s alright, Roseheather. I write mistakes as well:))
The two names you gave me look dutch. But it`s funny how those names are changing over the years. I see that a lot in American films. The first name probably has been Van der Meulen (of the mill), the second one Van Delftzijl (from Delftzijl, a town in the north of my country).


Hum, I see that I typed in "Lower Peninsula" incorrectly, a couple of comments below this one. ; ) Good thing that you can read right on by typographical errors, even in another language!

I have friends who have a Netherlands heritage. A very good friend of mine has a "dutch" name (her maiden name) but I am unsure of the pronunciation, I think the name was short, just 4 or 5 letters. The other friend who did the klompen dancing also has a dutch heritage, but I never learned her maiden name. My dentist is Dr. VanderMuelen, and my husband is in an organization with a young woman whose last name is Vandelfzijl. We have had other friends and acquaintances who have a dutch heritage, but my mind is slow tonight. Too tired. ; )


Schutkleur, I will ask my daughter the next time I talk with her. I know that they visited some other areas in the Netherlands, as well as going into Germany and into Belgium. It has been quite a while since I saw her pictures. I'll have to ask to see them again. ; )


Thanks for all the information, Roseheather. It`s fascinating. Most Americans must have a varied background, forebears from different countries, I mean. I never really thought about that. Me, I`m just dutch, in a long, long line :)
I remember you telling me about your daughter`s visit to the Netherlands. I`ve been meaning to ask you if you know which dutch city she visited.


Ah, good, Schutkleur, I'm glad you found this.

I live in the Lower Leninsula, in one of the second tier of counties from the bottom of the state. A link to my county:,_Michigan

My husband has German relatives, his grandparents on his father's side spoke German but my husband didn't know them. They died before his father married his mother. My husband is half English too, with English heritiage on both sides of his mother's family. My father's birth parents were from Austria, but he was given up for adoption at 3 mo. old because his mother, a new immigrant, was not married. She never did learn to speak English, and my dad didn't meet her until he was in his 50's. He waited until his adoptive mother had died to go looking for his birth parents. By that time his birth father was already gone, and his family claimed no knowledge of my father. One of my great grandfathers had a German background, Bavaria, and a great grandmother on the other side had German heritage as well. Both of my great grandparents were married to people with English backgrounds. My mother was born in Ohio, and my dad was born in Indiana -- both states are directly to the south of Michigan.

On one of your puzzles I had posted that our daughter came to the Netherlands for her 40th birthday, and she also visited A brewery in Germany that was started by one of my husband's distant relatives. Your puzzle: ; )

The brewery she visited was the Privatbrauerei Kesselring - Marktsteft, see: ; )


Found it, Roseheather. Thank you. There`s a lot of information there.
You live in a beautiful State. A very lot of German ancestry in your State, so there`s a big chance you have German forbears, too????
Do you live in the Upper Peninsula?


Schutkleur, the picture above was taken in March, and THAT was early for violets! They usually come in April.

The one below is for you also.

I'm a bit sleepy and forgot to put your name into my response. ; ) Also, in the link below, if you scroll way down, there is another map that is colored according to the population that settled Michigan from other countries. Orange, the largest block of color is German, Yellow is Finnish, and Green is Dutch. It also shows a concentration of African American in purple on the east side of the state. Many of them came north to work in industry, but also to work in war plants during the 2nd World War.


In Michigan, we are surrounded by lakes, so we are called the Great Lakes State. Our state is shaped like a mitten, and our neighbor to the North is Canada, across one of the lakes. This shows a map and some other info:


They`re beautiful, Roseheather!
You usually have snow this time of year? In which part of the US do you live? Quite up north??


You are welcome, PLG. I would rather have a snow picture to post. ; )


I guess the climate really is changing! Thanks for the nice puzzle!


I stepped out when my husband was trimming a limb close to the house, and saw some violets in bloom today -- December 6th!

Wow, this is a very, very strange weather year. Spring started in February, mowing started in March. Spring is usually in April and mowing in May here.