Love and Peace to France

Nov. 14, 2019....11:35 A.M.

Thanks Lori and Maggie.Nice to know friends care for you ,and of course I do care for you too! Will be thinking of you while we are away.
Many hugs to you all.
Love
Andie
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Andie, I echo Lori's comments. And it really is OK to enjoy yourself while you're away! My best to you!

May you find peace Andie, surrounded by your family & friends. Our hearts will still be with you! ~ Lori

I am so glad to hear that morris! Don't know what's happening in this world...in my small circle of family/friends/community there is great diversity and everyone gets along well with one another. It seems that this 'hatred' is infectious in some places, and spreading daily. Very sad.

Dear Maggie,Lori and Joe,thank you again for your kind thoughts.
I do hope ,Maggie and Clive, your families are safe in Greece, and Morris I'm pleased your aunt was not harmed .How dreadful if you can be attacked when travelling by train! I thought planes were risky but trains ! This world is crazy.
Dear friends we are going away on Friday and I won't be able to post puzzles or answer your comments for quite a while but before I go I want to thank you all again for your sympathy and all the comforting words you sent me.
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She is fine. Thanks for asking ♥

Wow morris...I hope she is un-harmed! [I know that cannot be true emotionally, though. Prayers for your family morris!] ~~ ♥ ~~ Lori

the train attack in Germany was in the City where my Aunt lives. Very scary ....

♥♥♥ Joe & Clive ♥♥♥

You are so right Joe.

You can't stop just because the mourning period is "over". Never forget!

Thank you Susan..although the three days of 'National Mourning" are over, my heart still aches for the victims, their families and the people of France. Thanks for stopping by. ~ Lori

Beautiful sentiment Lori!

Thanks for caring, Lori. It's hard to know what's happening to our "line" over in Greece since there are so few relatives here still living (although most of the women made it to near if not *to* 100), so we're pretty much in limbo.

Andie, you remain in my thoughts, my heart & my prayers! ♥

Clive, I didn't see your comment the other day about your own family's heritage. You paint a comical picture.
My Irish mother decided to learn Greek, and she became fluent in it, albeit she never would have passed for a "real" Greek since there are sounds in Greek that a non-Greek just cannot make (unless they learned it in early childhood). There are always exceptions, I'll give you that. My mom decided that if she was going to be living in a strongly homogeneous Greek community, she'd darned well better know what folks were saying about her!! Fun times...

Thank you Andie for taking the time to think of others' worries while you are going through this crisis of your own. I wish only future peace and happiness for you--with all my heart! ~Maggie

Clive and Maggie don't worry ,I am sure your families will be safe in Greece.
My thoughts and prayers go out to them.
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Thank you Lori for this commemorative posting. It is so unspeakably sad what has happened to so many innocent people and the incredible sorrow that it causes.
~ Let's stay peaceful with one another ~

Hi jeri, I will have a look before going to bed thank you.
Ha,Ha, Maggie my Father was Irish my Mother was Welsh so we have some thing in common.
Not a good combination as you may imagine but they got on very well shouting at each other in Welsh when they were both angry with each other. Thee Hee.

Clive, I was born in the USA. Of my grandparents' seven children, only my dad, the youngest, was born in America. I grew up in a part of my hometown affectionately called Greektown--and I absolutely was raised by the "village." Even though I was raised within the Greek culture/tradition, my mom was Irish, and I managed to soak up enough of that blood as well!!

Thanks, Clive. I appreciate the information... ~ Maggie

Clive... I posted a picture for you...

Oh, MaggieMay_MMM I take it you live either in the USA or Canada most Greek family's left years ago due to the earth quakes on the islands in the 50's but the main land still gets its shakes but there you go even my wife and I have been caught in them. To be fair most Greeks at the present have problems with the immigrants from all over again with no help from Europe so sad and they try to help every body. The Turks as you can imagine have little control over their nation but have a massive army and lots of up market weapons even helicopters and fighter jets.
The Greeks have outdated MIG fighter jets but lots of B.ll..ks.
Anthina's cousin is one of their pilots.

Clive...I am Greek, so you can imagine how your post affected me. There are still relatives (that I've never met) there, and I shudder to think!

So sad Patricia.

We're going through difficult times, Clive.

Very nice Patricia Thank you.
My youngest son and his Greek partner came to my home today and they are going back to Greece tomorrow. Apparently Greece is on high alert again after the Turkish coup and their old fashion air force is patrolling their air space so sad another two nations that do not seem to get on with each other and Greece is on its Knees with no help from Europe.
What is happening to us all ?

Definitely Patricia ,thanks for posting it,very appropriate.
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May you be right Maggie because I'm still wondering about what can be done to stop all this hatred around..But yes when you read these messages you see a glimmer of hope for more peaceful days with love and no more hatred."We shall overcome one day" ?

I'm so glad you all liked the poem. x x x

Almond - Your John Donne poem is so fitting. I'm familiar with it from college English Lit. I've often used the "no man is an island" and the "for whom the bell tolls" when a particular conversation calls for those reminders! It's a wonderful poem, and you are very kind to share it.

When I see the love here, in the wake of this nightmare, it gives me a sense of hope because I just know, when it's all said and done, WE (those with pure hearts) will prevail. Reading all these messages, while my blood is raging red, has warmed my heart.

And dear Lori don't forget before being a teacher I was a ...student and had to put up with all they forced us to do and that was before the sixties,so see what I mean ...
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Yes Lori ,all the families involved in the tragedy are ,and will be,having a dreadful time .Lots will bury their dead and many still don't know whether their relatives will survive. And we grieve with them as it is so painful to know of their sufferings .I don't want to watch TV as they only focus on very distressing pictures .Just knowing is enough for me .
I still wonder how that truck driver could wilfully drive into a crowd of innocent people and still feel devastated but yes,your words of comfort did and do help me a lot.
THANK YOU my friends ! I am most grateful to you all.
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Thank you Patricia! I also thought of Hemingway when I first saw "For Whom...", but such a lovely poem. I agree with Andie, means so much more when you are older and not 'forced' to read it by your English teacher! (NO offense Andie ☺) Thnx again Patricia! ~ Lori

Thank you Joe, I agree these tragedies make us take stock of ourselves...and your words mean so much! Thank you. ~ Lori

Andie, I hope you can see you are not alone during this anguishing time. We all feel this pain, and we all are here for you. The next few days will be a very difficult time for all of France and especially the families of the victims. Please take comfort in knowing you have many friends from all over the world feeling as you do! As I scroll down this page I can see or 'hear' everyone's emotions and reactions to this horrible tragedy. Shock, sadness, anger, frustration.....and empathy, kindness, forgiveness, love & support! ♥♥♥ We will continue to pray for peace...and will continue to be here for you! (sending you strength & hugs) ~ Lori

Patricia ,thank you for this beautiful poem by John Donne.
I had probably read it before as we studied his poems (and prose) when I was at uni but of course most words must have sounded a bit hollow at the age of 20.
I certainly am more conscious of its meaning now and I have just realized "for whom the bells toll" was much more familiar to me as the title of one of Hemingway's books than part of this poem.
Thanks Patricia.
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Jo (jacki2) I answered your message below.Thank you so much for caring for me and my country.

Joe (wjl)I am very grateful to you as you did find the words to comfort and "console"me.
Honestly I am still feeling bad this morning but actually much better after all the messages you all posted yesterday.
Of course when we see those people lying in hospital we feel helpless as we can't tend their wounds or bring their dead children back to them but friendship ,solidarity and brotherhood ("fraternity",thanks my dear ancestors for at least trying to fight for it) do wonders and will help us be back on our feet..
I know how you feel as I wish with all my heart for people to live in peace and accept the fact we are all different ,let's rejoice in that lots of people feel alike.

I second that. Also thank you to Maggie for that wonderful quote.
I will add this very well-known poem by John Donne:
No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

It has been a tragedy for all of us who strive for peace in our lives Andie. The senselessness of this act (and so many others in recent years) make us take stock of ourselves and reach out to comfort others affected by the violence. I have been a wreck since this happened and I wish there was something I could do. If all I can do is console others and vent my anger then that's what I will do!
Lori, thank you for giving us a forum here. We needed it.
Thanks again my friend :)

Lori ,thank you ever so much for being what you are : a wonderful friend.
I want you to know how much it helps not to feel alone with your grief.
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Jo ,I thank you for joining all those friends who have been offering words of comfort and support to me since the dreadful tragedy struck us. No need to apologize,it's very kind of you and I'm very grateful to you.

Maggie thank you from the bottom of my heart for your kind,soothing words. I am still in shock after awful nightmares last night.
The president decided we'd have three days of National Mourning and being united in grief and also with friends from all over the world will help us cope and find the strength to go on living normally.
Thank you again Maggie.

Thank you Jacki ♥

a beautiful image and tribute. thanks farrell. jigidi seems so universal, we sometimes forget we are talking to people half a world away. i apologize, andie, for not thinking of you sooner.

The honor is mine, my friend...and thank you for your beautiful words. ♥ Lori

Lori ~ What a wonderful gesture on your part to provide this outlet for our collective grief. I salute you for your humanitarianism and am honored to call you my friend. ~ Maggie

It is 8:40 P.M. here in Massachusetts, and I cannot believe I am just now finding out about this attack (I don't watch the news, but I do discover what is important).

Andie--I have never interacted with you, but please know that my heart goes out to you. The pain you feel reverberates throughout the world, and the good people of this world are with you. I like this quote:

“What separates us from the animals, what separates us from the chaos, is our ability to mourn people we’ve never met.”
― David Levithan, Love Is the Higher Law

I hope one day soon you will find peace - that we all find peace... ~Maggie~

hancheye, your apology is accepted by me as well.

Thank you to everyone for their kind comments & words of support. These will be difficult days ahead, but I hope you know Andie, and that you have a lot of friends here that truly care about you and these victims and their families. ~ Lori

Hi Joe, the problem is their religion Sunni and Shia Muslims do not like each other like the old wars of years ago with the different Christians killing each other across Europe sadly. But they treat their women as second class
We had our troubles with Ireland and I do not know why, my Father was Irish My Mother Welsh but they still bombed us and killed us for no reason, Even when our Queen was forced to meet the Irish man in Ireland recently and he said how are you she said I am still alive "Thank You"
I rest my case.

Clive, I think they hate and want to destroy any free peoples, not just the French or English or Americans. It's hard to believe in this day and age that there is still so much hatred and ignorance. I'm not nearly smart enough to have a solution, I wish that there was an obvious one but sadly there isn't.

Lori, this picture says it all...a very sad time...

Thank you Lori for this most sad puzzle, I have responded to Andie via other puzzles today and am so shocked to see France taking the brunt of these lunatics. I ask myself why France? What is their purpose.

Yes Lori found a lovely picture as a tribute and has been helping me all day and so have so many Jigidi friends.I am very grateful to them.I most needed their presence today.
Thank you so much too HeyJude for all the kind words and thoughts and prayers you send us,and we will find comfort in them as we we mourn the victims and grieve with their families ,those of the dead and the wounded,and also all those adults, young people and children still in hospital between life and death .Such a tragedy and within months of what struck us in November and left 130 people dead ,so many young people among them .
Yes fighting all together will surely put an end to these attacks ,I really pray we unite as cooperation is needed to eradicate fanaticism.

Lovely tribute!!! I keep staring at the picture, and the tear appears to move every time I blink. We are still weeping over this latest tragedy, and we will continue to do so until this evil is eradicated!! I pray for the victims, their families, and for those who survived the carnage. I commend the people who rendered aid both on scene and in hospital. Thank you for showing the world we care about them! Andie, our hearts are with you and all of France as you pay tribute to the victims in the coming days and weeks. May our hearts unite and our love for one another cause our leaders to formulate a global attack on the cowards who prey on the defenseless. Long live France!

Thanks, its appreciated!

"Man" or rather "Woman" as Andie is feminine, accepts your apologies.

Thank you so much Irene,nice to feel people backing you up ,all the more so as this was most unexpected .
10 children and young people dead among the 84 that died ,can't get over it.Just unbearable.

Joe,thanks ,that makes me feel better.It's the first time I have ever been spoken to in that way.
And today of all days !

Would like to apologize to everyone on here for my comments, I am just very angry and frustrated and sad. My 13 year old grand baby called me last night when all this broke loose on the news and she was crying, 13 years old. Andie, sorry man, please accept my apology.

No apologies needed Andie, we stand tall with you. I know it's hard, but just ignore that anonymous comment.♥♥♥

No need to argue. I get one or two on my posts that want to, but I just don't engage them :)

Thank you morris and Patricia .Don't feel like arguing today.Just grieving with the families and mourning the dead .

There's always one... best ignored (sigh).
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Thank you Irene,Lori and Joe,sorry I got carried away .There are times when all you need is friends comforting you and that's what I have found with you today .Thank you,I am most grateful.
And I will forget all about that anonymous comment ,would hate to have to report further unpleasant statements to Stephen or Magnus.
For the time being I'll let myself be comforted by your kind thoughts and words.Thanks again.

What Joe and Lori said!!
Horrible timing for a debate haunch ....

What Lori said.....

Andie, please pay NO attention to that loser. We who know and care about you are here for you. We are feeling the same sadness, pain and grief...and only want to ease your pain if we can. We are all facing this tragedy together. Sending love and hugs and prayers for peace. ~ Lori

This picture speaks volumes. Our thoughts and tears are with all the families and friends in France. Please stay safe.

hancheye,I really DON'T THINK you have chosen the right moment to insult me .You don't know me,don't know my opinions and you seem to be just living on another planet.
And to put it mildly : I won't answer any of your further comments.
ANDIE (my English nickname for Andrea)
And BTW I had written "fanatics" NOT as you quoted me wrongly ,ignoring the right spelling , "fanatic's"

@Andie2a1383, so you would continue on the way of the politicians and allow them to disseminate into countries in order to continue to do harm and destruction to others, that's just wonderful. You should run for office, you would fit right in and be very popular.

Thanks Patricia for feeling the way I feel .It helps a lot knowing people are by your side when you are overwhelmed by shock and grief as I am today.
Thank you for all the comfort your kind words have brought me.

Fishes I had answered your comment but can't see it below.Thank you .

So that's the way you see it hancheye."Isolate them and put them in one place" ? Then you will be sitting on a bomb ready to explode any minute.
Today is a day of sadness and brokenhearted as I am I have no will to argue but no, I don't think that's the best solution ..
And the answer to your last question is :Yes ! Some young people from nice Christian families have left for Syria to carry on the Jihad.We have seen many families on TV who insisted they had" seen nothing" begging their sons and daughters to come home.

Thank you nette,isaly,jaklien and mercedes .I do appreciate all your words of comfort.Reading them eases my pain.Thank you.

Yes Joe,that's the problem .You don't feel safe anywhere.What am I to say to my children : stay at home,don't go to a bar or a restaurant or a disco or shopping ,don't go by train ,boat,plane ?
Might as well tell them to live in a cave then !

Thanks Lori ,that's so nice of you and your kind words go straight to my heart .I feel hurt and shocked but being comforted by so many Jigidiers is helping me a lot .The worst would be to mourn and feel totally forsaken.

candleman the last terror attack took place in November,so July or November or...same problem ,sorry to say.

My prayers to France, may God Bless you and point the way. @ Andie2a1383, "countries are easy targets and don't seem able to fight against these fanatic's but will have to find a way". Well, you isolate them and put them in one place and not allow them via immigration into other countries. Ask yourselves one little question, have any Christians, etc. been radicalized by muslims?

So so sad!!

We all agree Jaklien ... Thank you ~ Lori

thank you nette and Isaly and Joe! ~ Lori

Awful!

wjl1015 you are so right. I just don't have the words to convey my feelings now. My prayers go out to France.

These attacks are perpetrated by people who do not feel empathy. I was with my niece at the Boston Marathon when the bombs went off. There were people from all over the world! The pain & shock & sadness & grief is the same no matter where you are from, what language you speak , what color your skin is or what god you pray to, if any. The lack of empathy, the anger & the hatred is what starts all this.

Those affected by the hatred exhibited by terrorism and the depraved indifference to human life is ever increasing...... God help us!

This is a global problem. You needn't live in France to feel some empathy for what happened because it's happening EVERYWHERE!

Candleman, what if you LIVE in France?

your welcome morris .

Thank you Patricia! And Fishes & Sally & Joe. It is such a sad day. I hope it helps Andie to know we are all with her in her sadness, shock and grief. ♥ Lori

I agree, thanks for the sounding board ...

I second that - Thank you, Lori x

I'm happy to help, if even in a small way. I'm glad this post gives people an outlet for how they are feeling & to show support. And I'm sorry your cousin didn't make the team, but relieved too. Thank you Joe for your kind words. ~ Lori

Thank you Lori for posting this and giving us all an opportunity to vent, cry, or just talk.
Thank you my friend!
~ Joe ~

Dearest Andie: I have friends and cousins in France (and French blood in my veins) and I have always felt totally European (from a very, very early age). I feel France's tragedy in my heart and soul just as much as a French person would and I have been crying too. We are all brothers and sisters united in grief.
Prayers for all those who have lost a loved one.
Mille bises x x x
Patricia

(well said, wjl)

You are not alone Andie, The whole (free) world mourns with you and all of France.......

No words❤️