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Thanks so much, Gwen, Brie and Martha. Brie, I'd starve before I'd let money come between me and my cats. Unfortunately, living on Social Security disability, there is no *somewhere* for me, but I make do. We don't go hungry and we're all happy campers regardless. Martha, I'm not sure what puzzle you're referring to, but please don't worry about it. Even if I'd seen it, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. I only look through my Favorites, so I miss a lot of puzzles as well, but I don't have the time or sitting ability to pore through many hundreds of puzzles a day. I know you care; that's all that matters. That's all the help I need, but thank you so much anyway. You're a dear.
Oh Gail, I left a note on another puzzle and it must sound so insensitive to you, but I had not been on Jigidi for several days except to work bookmarked puzzles. I just now read this comment string and learned of dear Norton's problems. My thoughts are with you. Is there anything more I can do to help?
Oh Gail - such good news, it makes my heart sing! I am so happy to hear that Norton is making such good progress but what a conundrum - let's hope the vets can come up with the right answers.vets bills are so expensive. I give thanks we took out insurance on ours when the were new borns. Pumpkin's bills are in excess of £2500 so far, but even without insurance I would find the money some how - as would we all; they are our children. Somehow, when the need is greatest something hears us and the money seems to come from somewhere - I pray that the 'Kitty-Kitty' can be filled for you and Norton! Good luck and love, you are both in my prayers.
Gail, such good news. I do hope his improvement continues.
I just got back from the clinic with Norton. In the last several hours, he has come a remarkable distance. He howled the entire trip to the vet, which was a good sign. He was able to stand up on his haunches enough not to keel over on his side (about 80% more than he could yesterday, but still only about 30% better in total), and he nearly jumped up on the couch to get back to his bed, where he's resting once again. He was dehydrated and got some fluids in the office. They ran a glucose test for the third time, and it was still slightly elevated, but not enough to signal diabetes. The only thing left to explain what happened is that he had a seizure. If that's true, we don't yet know why, and it's just a wait and see thing. But he almost made a liar out of me when I called and said he was extremely lethargic and not standing up. I'd rather be made a liar than have it be permanently true. Today's bill was $83; so far, he's cost me over $700, money which is in very short supply. But I do what I have to do for them, which I would expect anyone to do for their pets. I'd starve first. All in all, it's going to be a much better day today than yesterday, and I'm hoping tomorrow will be better than today. To all of you who have commented and written to me with your good wishes and prayers, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Norton sends a weak meow, even though his cry is not back to normal yet.
Gail, I'm so very sorry and my heart aches for you. My thoughts are with you. Gwen.
I'm so sorry Gail. I'm saying prayers.HUGS
As I just wrote on one of Kirsten's puzzles, Norton's not doing well at all. I'm just waiting the two hours before I take him back to see one of the vets in Andy's office. She's off today, but it'll be good to get another set of eyes on him and maybe an explanation of what's going on. My heart is breaking for him right now. It may be odd to say, but I'm going to be lost without him, and so are Schnellie, Tootsie, Frankie and Keeper, but especially Schnellie. I'm very worried he's nearing the end if we can't figure out what the problem is.
Oh dear, I just read this string Gail. So sorry to hear the old soldier is in the wars. I know he will be receiving the best care, because of who you are. Best wishes, Jen
Oh Gail, I'm so sorry about the setback. I do hope that Andy and her colleagues can work out what is wrong. Only then can you start working on sorting it out. You and Norton are both in my thoughts. :)))
Okay, Kirsten, I'm glad to know that. Ada, thanks so much. I just read your email.Brie, thank you for the suggestions. I'll heat up his food a little and see if it helps. I'm not so concerned about Norton using the litter box, since he hasn't eaten much and probably hasn't built up much stool. I'm bringing him back to the vet tomorrow because I'm very worried. I got a voice mail earlier from one of the vets telling me that the blood work came back and his heart is in the normal range. So now, we don't know what happened, and it's looking more and more like he didn't have a blood clot. I'm concerned that this is perhaps a real case of diabetes that has suddenly shown up, so I want him tested again. He's lethargic as well, which worries me. Andy is off tomorrow, but I'll still be able to talk to her on the phone, and one of the other wonderful vets there will see to Nortie. All in all, it was a miserable birthday.Roerick, you offered to have a private conversation via email. I sent you one but never heard back from you. Did you receive it?
Gail, you know how I feel. having recently lost a pet. Makes my heart ache.You AND Norton will be in my thoughts and my heart. He's a beautiful cat. So majestic looking. - Ada
Hi GailJust to let you are both in my heart and prayers everyday. I am so glad you have such an excellent vet - something with which we too are blessed. As an excellent, loving cat mum I am sure you know these two tips but I'll mention them anyhow incase there are others who don't know - we zap Pumpkin's DD in the microwave for 10 seconds to release the aroma and she eats more readily since doing that and when Flossie was having problems with using the litter tray we gave here slippery elm bark mixed to a gel so that it loosened that which firm and she had difficulty passing. We also mixed psyllium husk powder with her wet food to help.I read the article on Pumpkin's problem. Sadly, she ticks the boxes of middle aged female and it attacking the intestines and lymph nodes but she is still hanging in there.Today is more precious than the day before and not as precious as tomorrow. May Norton make little but successful steps to recovery.Brie, Pumpkin and the rest of my gang
It was nothing Gail. I just wanted you to see my birthday puzzle to you before I signed out, and to wish you a happy birthday on the day, that's all.
Kirsten, I'm sorry I missed you. Would you send me an email when you get a chance, so I know what you want to discuss?
Thanks, Catherine, and thanks so much for my birthday puzzle. It's beautiful.
Hi Gail, just saw the "news"... and feel very sorry for Norton... but I am sure he will recover very fast with your loving care. Auguri to him and you! Happy birthday...
I guess it's at least a step in the right direction Gail, although a very small one. I'm still hoping very hard for a good outcome. And I want to say something else, but fear this isn't the right place. So could you visit my place? Now?
Not so fast! Norton's home, but he's still very ill. I only said if I had a choice over heart disease or diabetes, I'd choose diabetes. We're still waiting for the blood work to come back on his heart. And he's still not walking well. He shows no interest in using the litter box unless I bring him there, and no interest in food unless it's wet food and I put it right in front of his nose. I'm trying for him not to get dehydrated, but he doesn't want water unless I cup some in my hand and then he drinks from that. I swear he's reverting to his kittenhood... Andy and I went out for a triple birthday dinner and she came over to check up on Norton. We had him walk from the foyer to the couch, where he's been camping out. She said he's walking a little better. It's hard for me to tell, but I believe her. She said Homer, her cat that had thrown a clot, didn't eat for five days, so for Norton to have any appetite at this point is great. And she said it took Homer weeks before he was walking normally again, so I may be in it for the long haul waiting for Nortie to recover. It's very difficult to watch, and he can't climb up onto my bed yet. He loves nothing more than sleeping under the covers with me, as do Tootsie, Frankie and Schnellie. When he can climb up onto the low bookcase at the foot of my bed and then onto the bed, I'll know he's made great progress.
Thanks for the update Gail. So pleased Norton is home! Here's hoping he continues to improve. Good thoughts are being sent your way! Take care & best wishes for you & your cats.
That's GREAT news, Gail! So happy to hear that he is home and diagnosed with something you can handle! You both feel so much better now. :-))
Thanks, Deborah. If I had to make a choice between diabetes and heart disease, I'd choose diabetes. I've had three diabetic cats, and I know how to manage it, but heart disease, now that's scary.
Gail, It's good to hear that Norton was able to come home. I just hope that he'll get better from here and that there's no major heart problems for him. Diabetes can be dealt with and managed. I'm sending you both all the best! Both of you take care!
Thanks, canoekaw. I appreciate that.Roerick3, I'll email you now. Thanks for the offer.
I am so sorry this happened to Norton. You seem like a very good kitty Mom doing the best for your sweeties. I will keep you in my thoughts and follow what happens.
You're welcome, Brie. I love Peter Gethers' books. Gem, Norton is "Batrat"... Kirsten and Grandmalucy, the time to cheer is not yet. I brought Norton home this morning and he hasn't moved off the couch since. He's going to have to get locked out of my bedroom when I go to sleep tonight because he is still dragging his feet. Andy thinks he's doing a little better, but I'm not certain. We're getting together for my annual birthday dinner Saturday night; it's a mile away from where I live, so I'll have her come over and check on him afterwards.As far as diabetes, his glucose level was still high, but that happens a lot in cats that are stressed. He might be pre-diabetic or have early diabetes, but nothing to worry about right now, considering all else that's going on. We had a discussion whether to put him on heart medication or not as a preventive to save money on testing. My feeling is I don't want to do that unless we know for certain that it was a thrown blood clot. A blood test won't definitively say so, but if there's heart disease, it's more likely that this is what it was. So blood work has been drawn and sent to the lab to see if he has heart disease, and we'll know more early next week. We know he has a slightly enlarged heart from the x-rays, but that doesn't necessarily mean heart disease. All told, my pretty boy has cost me upwards of $600. As far as I know, Social Security doesn't give raises for sick cats or allow them to be on Medicare.
OCTOMOM, GLAD TO HEAR ALL IS GETTING BETTER. I WILL STILL BE SAYING PRAYERS FOR YOU AND NORTON.
Oh, Gail! I'm so happy for you and Norton. I don't know what else to say really, other than I'm happy, happy, happy. Great news, my friend. Big smiles for you here. :-DDD
Glad you had a good night's sleep and are on the way to having a diagnosis from your very special vet.I had to chuckle when I looked at Norton's picture again...are you sure he's not "Batman"?
Dear Gail I am so pleased to read that Norton has had such good care from Andy. I am so glad that you managed to get some sleep. And a very big thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking time in all of your troubles and anxiety to ask about Pumpkin. Norton is in the best hands and will be soon on the road to recovery. Pumpkin was a 'garbage pail' too but all she eats now is Hills DD as it is a new protein of which she has no experience (not many deer around here so venison is totally novel!!). My love and prayers for you and gorgeous Norton - and that was one special kitty too; i loved those books!Off to read the article - thank you
You have all made me feel so great for the capacity each of you has to love animals. Thank you for that. Here's the latest update:Andy left a message on my phone because I conked out for a solid 12 hours. Much-needed rest finally came my way. He's still not eating which, for my little feline garbage pail, is very unusual. With six cats, it's very hard to know who's eating or using the litter box. She didn't say anything about his ability to walk better, but I'll know more when I talk to her on Friday morning. She did say I could probably take him home then, but I may keep him there longer for the above reasons, that I can't tell who eats when. His immediate crisis seems to be over, and it looks like he did actually throw a blood clot. It also looks like he might have diabetes. The blood work showed elevated levels of glucose, but she said that could be due to all the stress he's been under, and is going to repeat the test on Friday morning. It's not the end of the world since if he does have it, Norton would make my fourth diabetic cat. Certainly no reason to euthanize him. And he takes pills and his inhaler so well that I'm sure I'd be able to give him insulin. I actually would be happy if that were the worst that came out of this. Being on prednisolone and terbutaline for almost seven years has taken its toll on his kidneys and lungs. The radiologist came by today and read his x-rays. He said Nortie has a slightly enlarged heart, but it's not a huge deal. Andy has decided to not give him the heart medicine that the ER vet prescribed. Fortunately, it was donated to me by them ($50), so once Nortie is out of the woods, I may pay it forward.Deborah, what can I say? It's interesting that someone could look at a photo of Norton and say he looks ill without even knowing what he, or the the breed, normally looks like. Roerick, since I said you could ask me any question at any time, perhaps you could answer a question for me: what about this photo made you say he looks ill? Brie, I had no idea what Hypereosinophilic Syndrome was, so I looked it up. I'm so sorry to learn Pumpkin has it, and also about Flossie. Prednisolone (a variation of prednisone) is like a miracle drug when it helps. I hope Pumpkin continues to react well to the pred. Here's a PedMD article on the condition for those that might be interested:http://www.petmd.com/cat/conditions/cardiovascular/c_ct_overproduction_white_blood_cells?page=show
Gail, I'm so sorry to hear about Norton. If he can have any quality of life I pray it will be. If not, we will all grieve with you.
Oh Gail, I'm just now reading this about Norton. I had to stop and dry my eyes and blow my nose. You would never keep Norton just for yourself. It's all about the quality of life for him! I went through that with my Jawz. I know all too well how hard it is let go of someone you love, especially the one's who your baby, but you'll do what's right for him, of that I have no doubt. And I also have to say shame on those who assumed the worst without asking you first! My thoughts and prayers are with you and Norton. Please keep us updated on him.
Just checking in Gail. I hope you're both OK today, and that you are well enough, and well rested enough to swing by and let us know how you both are doing. :)))
Oh Gail - I'm feeling for you & Norton. He's a beautiful creature & I hope that you recieve good news from the Vet. For what it's worth - I'm sending best wishes & lots of love to both of you. So many of us pet lovers/owners have been in the same position & know what you are going through. Stay safe & best wishes...Rob.
Dear Gail, I am so glad you were able to get to see Andy and that Norton is through the first few hours. I have a dear friend in Illinois whom I met through the Chronic Renal Failure yahoo group way back in 2001. She too had a beloved kitty who was her life, her soul. I saw someone who loved her kitty as much as you and any of us here and we all do what is right for we are the only ones who know our cats. She did fluids every night - something I wish we did here as my little Flossie probably would have lasted a lot longer and he was 23 when he finally died in her arms. I had flown over from England as I had made her the promise that I would be there when the day came for him to pass over the Bridge.There is never a right time for us to say our last farewells. My 10 year old Pumpkin has been diagnosed with Hypereosinophilic Syndrome. There is no cure and very few professional papers for consultation. Yesterday her eosinophil levels had dropped to 3.38 from 7.1 (the high norm being 1.57). i know that it is only because of the Prednisolone but she is being like her ordinary Pumpkin self. I cherish, as do you, every precious moment and as long as the quality of life is there, that is all I can ask for.Norton is so handsome, and I know how difficult it is to take a flash photo of a black kitty - nigh on impossible. LOL!I will light my Flossie's little pink candle and beam Norton healing light and love and pray that you too can find some peace to sleep. good luck and loveBrie, Pumpkin, Tootsie, Topshelf and Ziggy and my angels Flossie, Mo, Daisy, Holly, Georgie, Monty and dear Brown Kitty
Faye said it perfectly, Gail! :))
Not only do I pray for Norton's recovery but also that your stress is lessened, your back pain eased, and everyone gets a good night's rest. Blessings. Get well Norton.
Dear Octomom of the kitties, I know you have had much trials, with the "kitties", and have been a wonderful "Mom" them. I have sort of followed their photo stories since I started Jigidi, over a year ago. Norton, like Lela said, is like a jigidi family member. He is a beautiful 3 legged cat that doesn't know he is different! And he has you to thank for that!! I too wish him to get well soon, but, if that isn't possible, I will grieve a little with you. I too have been in your position!! I wish you peace and comfort in knowing you are not alone in this!! You have us behind you for support! Hugs, Jo :)
Gail-octo-multi....sorry to hear your news, and hope that Norton pulls through this - after all he is a part of jigidi heritage! ....Good luck......
Wow, that was longer than I thought. Sorry. I'll be back here tonight with an update on his condition. Hopefully, I'll have some good news. Also, my vet said she had two cats who had thrown blood clots. One of them died instantly. The other lived several years longer. So there IS hope for Nortie, and that's what I'm clinging to. It's just that his asthma complicates matters.
Thank you all very much for your well wishes. I do want to say a few things:First of all, Norton is not in any pain, nor was he ever in pain. The original pain was when he threw the blood clot, and that's when he peed on my bed. At least, that's what the ER vet and my vet said.Second of all, I only started doing laundry after Norton was home and while I was waiting for Andy to wake up. I called her at 6:00 this morning at home, and by 7:30 I was in her office for her to examine him. She's keeping Norton for at least the day, and will call me after the results of the blood tests are in, so once again I'll be shortchanging myself on sleep. She'll also see how he's walking. I can't take him home until he can use the litter box. Having a chronic pain condition makes it too difficult for me to continually spend five hours doing laundry. But we all miss him terribly, especially his best friend Schnellie. She's been crying all morning for him.Above all else, no matter how I feel, I always think of my animals' well-being first. That's why, as exhausted as I was, I drove to the ER clinic at midnight, and also stayed up until it was time to see my regular vet. I would never let one of my animals needlessly suffer, ever.Laura, I am most emphatically NOT *that* nutcase. I may be a nutcase in my own right, but not that one. I used to have eight cats, hence the name Octomom. Sneaker was Nortie's best friend at the time, and she died at the age of 12 after suffering a seizure that $2,000 worth of testing showed was a cancerous tumor in her sinuses, and Cookie died at the age of 20 of old age. My cats typically live to age 20, because they're fed the best food and get the best care.Lastly, a couple of you said Norton doesn't look well in this photo. He looks GREAT in this photo. He's an Oriental Shorthair, and that's the way they look: part bat, part rat, part chihuahua, with an Egyptian face. They're built solidly, but skinny and slinky. He only weighs eight pounds. The flash of the camera here woke him up, but he loves to sleep under the covers. Here's a link to a site that shows what Oriental Shorthairs looks like:http://www.petmd.com/cat/breeds/c_ct_orientalAlso, here's a YouTube video showing what they look and sound like:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-F9cGiRdCoAnd the funniest one of all, Spider-Cat:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=BlleIkFRxMU&NR=1I apologize if I gave anyone the impression that he was ever in pain. I re-read my initial comment, and nowhere in there did I say he was in pain. I think it was misinterpreted because I said he was on pain meds, but that's just in case he has pain. He has shown no sign of being in pain, no crying or howling. When both vets touched him, he didn't cry at all, just sat there licking himself, tickled by all the attention. The pain would come if he threw a clot in his heart or brain. Then, he'd be in intense pain, but it would last a very short time and then he would be die immediately. I'M the one in pain, but I don't count, because I have learned to live with it. Animals don't have that capacity. I love all my animals too much to make them suffer. To me, that's a purely selfish act of one who is in denial of reality. If there was ever a time to euthanize a cat, and in my case there have been many such times, I won't hesitate to do it, however much it might break my heart. Roerick3, you can say anything at all to me and I won't take offense. I would only take offense if a judgment was made without having a discussion with me first. And Grandmalucy, I didn't think you meant disrespect, I just think you read my comment incorrectly, and that was purely my fault. I thank you all so much for your caring.
Ditto, grandmalucy, Laura, roerick3. Octomom, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Norton, and I know you'll do what's best for him.
Sorry, Octomom, but I am another who read your original post as lauraMcGaffey and Grandmalucy did and I didn't not leave a comment because I didn't have the nerve to say what they did. I understand that you want your friend and long time vet to see your cat but all I hope is that Norton is not made to suffer needlessly. The above picture of him brought tears to my eyes because he looks so sick in that picture and that's not even a recent picture. We're not judging just wishing no pain for you or Norton. I am one of the people who does all of your puzzles and have left many comments about them since I joined Jigidi because I've enjoyed everyone you have done. So please read this post in the spirit with which its sent and know you and Norton are in my prayers.
Gail, I am so very sorry that poor Norton is so ill. I do hope he makes a full recovery. Try to get some sleep. The last thing Norton needs is for you to be so tired that you have an accident in your car.
Hey, octomom (I sure hope you aren't that self-indulgent nutcase with eight kids that everyone knows as octomom), I'm sorry about your current trials with Norton, but don't take it out on others. In your original post I got the impression, just as I think grandmalucy may have, that you are not functioning/thinking well today. Hell, you said so! Therefore, I had the same reaction as grandmalucy: that you are hanging on to Norton and letting him suffer while you wash your bedclothes. If that is not the case, then I'm glad. But, I want you to realize that grandmalucy was not the only one who read your post the way she did.
My thoughts are with you and the wonderful Norton. May he be well...
I was not showing disrespect , we are all animal lovers and i pray for what needs to be done, to be done ........
Hi Kirsten, thanks. I'm so sorry I missed you. I'm up because I'm still doing laundry and am waiting for the mattress protectors to dry so I can make the bed. I'll have to dig up a couple of other blankets to replace the down comforter, which hasn't even been put in the wash yet. It will take at least four hours or so for it to dry in the dryer. I won't wait for that, but since it's already 3:30, I think I'll make some coffee and call Andy in a couple of hours. I'm really afraid to go to sleep now because I won't wake up for many hours. I was SO looking forward to a good night's sleep, and had actually gotten into bed at 11:00 which, as you know, is early for me. Oh well, the best of intentions... But Nortie comes first, and I won't be able to sleep until I can get him to Andy's office, one way or another. Once Andy's at work, she won't be able to come and get him. I may yet take a nap ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... oh, what was I saying???
Thanks, Brie. This photo of Norton was taken last year. He still looks the same, just a little bedraggled. Your thoughts are heartwarming.Grandmalucy, with all due respect, I've had dozens of cats in my lifetime, and I know when it's time to let them go. I'm not one to make them suffer. There's no reason at all to euthanize him just yet (I dislike the term "putting to sleep", it's inauthentic and glosses over the fact that your cat will die). There'll be plenty of time to make that decision if it comes to that, and the decision may yet be taken out of my hands. I would never consider euthanizing him without having him see Andy first. She's the authority who's known him for nearly 13 years and will know what's best for him. He's not in pain right now. I know you mean well, but you're making a judgment about something when you don't have all the facts.
Oh Gail. I was wondering where you were. I'm so sorry. I wish I was there to help in some way. At least with something practical for you. My advice, for what it's worth, is that you may as well go to bed. Why not set the alarm for 6 am with the volume turned up really loud, so you do wake up to make the call to Andy? I'm sorry, but I have to sign out now. But I'm hoping for the best outcome for both of you. REALLY HARD. And I'll check in again in the morning. Take care, my friend. Love, Kirsten
Oh that is such heart-breaking news. I am sending you all the love and prayers for Norton. I really hope you can get hold of Andy and that the Emergency vet's diagnosis is wrong or certainly not so devastating. He looks so poorly but if love can help to heal I am sure everyone here will beam him and you loads. There are so many cat lovers here and we know the pain Norton and you are suffering. I hold you both in my heart and beam love and healing to Norton. I pray that Andy is there and can help you
Why are you putting your cat thru all this pain. if it is so needed,please do the right thing and put him to sleep, i know it is very truamatic for you but please give him peace.
The most horrible thing happened tonight. I had only gotten two hours of sleep and four the night before. I got into bed, fully expecting to get nine solid hours of sleep, when I felt a wet bed. Someone had peed all over the bed. It seeped through to my down comforter and duvet cover, through not one, but two, waterproof mattresses, but didn't get to the third one. Crazy, you're thinking. She's got THREE mattress pads? Now you know why. I didn't know who it was, had no suspicions. Then I heard something unusual under the bed, and it was Norton trying to walk with his three legs. He was dragging his back two legs as he was trying to walk. So I had to get dressed, figure out where the emergency vet clinic is and get him there, all the while being a danger to myself and anyone else on the road because I was so exhausted and had just taken a pain pill so I could finally sleep. But that was by far not the worst of what was to come. The emergency vet took x-rays, listened to his heart, etc. He has an enlarged heart, a heart murmur, and from all appearances, had thrown a blood clot. She didn't know where it ended, but it's most likely in his legs. But that still isn't the worst of it. He's likely to throw another blood clot, it might very well go to his brain, and he could have a seizure and die on the spot. It will be without warning and he won't survive it. He's now on pain meds plus something for his heart, but with the meds he takes for his asthma, the first choice of drug isn't an option, as it's aspirin, and you can't mix aspirin and prednisolone. I'm doing laundry now to at least have a mattress pad or two on the bed. My down comforter is probably going to have to wait until tomorrow. I'm on my second load of three.Norton, as you all know, is my baby. He's the best cat I've ever had the privilege of knowing, and I've had a lot of cats in my lifetime. If I lose him, I don't know what I'd do. I have to call my friend and vet Andy at first light, but I called last night before this happened and she didn't return my call, so she might be out of town camping. I'm trying to get her to come pick up Norton and bring him to her clinic so I don't have to be a danger on the road. I just don't know what to do. I don't have anyone else that can do this for me. I don't know if I should try and get some sleep or make a pot of coffee to stay awake. It's almost 3:00 a.m. here, and I want to call Andy by 6:00. I know when I fall asleep it'll be for a very long time. But I can't when Norton is having a health crisis. I wish I had the answer. I know there are a lot of you who love Norton, so please keep him in your thoughts.